Amazing that much survived re-entry.
Amazing that much survived re-entry.
What exactly would a response entail? It's coming or not. We aren't going to stop it.
I'd almost forgotten about that historical document. Those poor people.Haven't you seen Armageddon??????
here are the too possible outcomes,Haven't you seen Armageddon??????
Yes, the only solution to an extermination event is to send Bruce Willis into space, and if he bangs his head against the asteroid hard enough, it will disintegrate into tiny bits that will then burn up in the atmosphere.Haven't you seen Armageddon??????
This one of a few good reasons to be thankful that space is so darn big…Yes, the only solution to an extermination event is to send Bruce Willis into space, and if he bangs his head against the asteroid hard enough, it will disintegrate into tiny bits that will then burn up in the atmosphere.
But seriously, if and I mean if, we get enough advance warning, we have already seen that diverting the object is possible. Far enough away, a 1 degree difference in trajectory is more than enough to miss us entirely.
It's not stainless, it's Inconel, an alloy of nickle and chromium (with a little iron). Melting point for most alloys is around 1300C (2500F). I'm surprised *more* chunks didn't make it to earth. Why were they using this particular material on a battery pallet support?Amazing that much survived re-entry.
Worked in aerospace.Yes, the only solution to an extermination event is to send Bruce Willis into space, and if he bangs his head against the asteroid hard enough, it will disintegrate into tiny bits that will then burn up in the atmosphere.
But seriously, if and I mean if, we get enough advance warning, we have already seen that diverting the object is possible. Far enough away, a 1 degree difference in trajectory is more than enough to miss us entirely.
More probably did make it down to Earth, but didn't happen to crash through a guy's roof.It's not stainless, it's Inconel, an alloy of nickle and chromium (with a little iron). Melting point for most alloys is around 1300C (2500F). I'm surprised *more* chunks didn't make it to earth. Why were they using this particular material on a battery pallet support?
The new piece in the picture posted looks like a trunnion. If the pallet was launched by the shuttle that's what held the payload in place in the bay. Everything had 4 to 5 trunnions (2 starboard, 2 port, and 1 keel (smaller/flatter didn't always have a keel trunnion))More probably did make it down to Earth, but didn't happen to crash through a guy's roof.
It's not stainless, it's Inconel, an alloy of nickle and chromium (with a little iron).
Why would it necessarily be Inconel? The article quotes "The space agency said it was a metal support used to mount old batteries on a cargo pallet for disposal. ". I would assume stainless steel if it is used only for disposal. Any other reason they would particularly use expensive Inconel?It's not stainless, it's Inconel, an alloy of nickle and chromium (with a little iron). Melting point for most alloys is around 1300C (2500F). I'm surprised *more* chunks didn't make it to earth. Why were they using this particular material on a battery pallet support?
https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/...ncounter-with-something-that-fell-from-space/Why would it necessarily be Inconel? The article quotes "The space agency said it was a metal support used to mount old batteries on a cargo pallet for disposal. ". I would assume stainless steel if it is used only for disposal. Any other reason they would particularly use expensive Inconel?
You never know when someone might try and attack you’re battery support with a welding torch!!Thanks. I wonder why they wasted the money on the expensive alloy?
Strength (static and fatigue) and non reactive nature.Thanks. I wonder why they wasted the money on the expensive alloy?
The earlier article mentioned it was on the disposal pallet, so both of those don't make sense. Unless the article was wrong and it went up with the batteries on ascent.Strength (static and fatigue) and non reactive nature.
Everything got up there somehow and NASA doesn't send empty stuff up for giggles. It may not have been a payload bay trunnion dimensions quoted seem small for that, but likely something similar.The earlier article mentioned it was on the disposal pallet, so both of those don't make sense. Unless the article was wrong and it went up with the batteries on ascent.
"The hardware was expected to fully burn up during entry through Earth's atmosphere,"
and it raises a rare and complicated question: Who should pay to repair a home that's hit by debris plummeting from orbit?
Good job, mate! I completely heard the entire orchestra in my head! Sterling. Now, how to bring it up in casual conversation. Maybe karaoke?Maybe NASA will start pushing crates of freeze-dried astronaut poop overboard, and some lucky schmuck will get bonked by a flaming space turd.
Oh, look! A shooting star!
When you wish upon a star
Makes no difference who you are
Any crap NASA retires
Will fall on you
Like a bolt out of the blue
Batteries and bags of poo
When you wish upon a star
They land on you
Maybe, when they jettison something like that pallet, it should have a very small retro rocket, plus a heat activated stick of dynamite to make smaller pieces once it's re-entering the atmosphere and not a source of orbital space junk. Ok, I'm sure they have something relatively safe that gives more bang per pound than dynamite, but same idea.
Agree with that statement if you substitute "should have" for "had to". Because if they knew and rolled the dice ("yes, big chunks will survive and may hit someone, but its really expensive to load this on a shuttle and bring it down safely") this implies NASA has the same disease that Boeing appears to have. I suspect that they did not do an inventory to ensure that nothing "reentry survivable" was on the jettisoned pallet.Rubbish! NASA engineers had to realise that parts of the pallet made from inconel would survive reentry.
Not sure people who fly rockets which occasionally fail and plunge to Earth at high velocities have a right to sneer. Ditto golf and baseball players, drivers, pilots of full scale and large model airplanes, etc.Agree with that statement if you substitute "should have" for "had to". Because if they knew and rolled the dice ("yes, big chunks will survive and may hit someone, but its really expensive to load this on a shuttle and bring it down safely") this implies NASA has the same disease that Boeing appears to have. I suspect that they did not do an inventory to ensure that nothing "reentry survivable" was on the jettisoned pallet.
If you get to it three years ahead of time, while it's going 30,000 mph, changing its course by less than 1 second of arc ought to do the job. Looked at another way, changing the velocity something like 0.15 mph laterally ought to do it. That's good, since civilization-threatening objects are likely to be very heavy. Add something more, depending on the precision of your measurements, just to make sure you're not making the hit closer to dead-on instead of further.Yes, the only solution to an extermination event is to send Bruce Willis into space, and if he bangs his head against the asteroid hard enough, it will disintegrate into tiny bits that will then burn up in the atmosphere.
But seriously, if and I mean if, we get enough advance warning, we have already seen that diverting the object is possible. Far enough away, a 1 degree difference in trajectory is more than enough to miss us entirely.
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