The NCR Phantom 4000 is back!

[Rob Campbell]

Looks like Matt Steele has been busy. I was browsing Apogee's website and stumbled across the NCR Phantom 4000. It's a full 4 inches in diameter, features a 29mm motor mound and interlocking fin tabs and centering rings. The site said 8 were in stock. As of a few minutes ago it's now 7.

 

[sr205347d]

Sweet. I have one of the originals. I hope they fixed the motor mount tube to actually fit 29mm motors.

https://www.rocketryforum.com/threads/black-powder-high-power.185762/

 

[Rob Campbell]

Sweet. I have one of the originals. I hope they fixed the motor mount tube to actually fit 29mm motors.

https://www.rocketryforum.com/threads/black-powder-high-power.185762/

The 28mm motor mount tube was an artifact of the era when Estes owned North Coast. Estes was trying to persuade customers to use their Darkstar motors and not use Aerotech reloads. All of the new NCR kits have real 29mm motor mounts, not the undersized ones Estes used.

 

[John Kemker]

My NCR Phantom 4000 had a 38mm mount.

 

[Rob Campbell]

My NCR Phantom 4000 had a 38mm mount.

Was that a pre-Estes Phantom or a modification?

 

[John Kemker]

Was that a pre-Estes Phantom or a modification?

Purchased at NARAM 33, so pre-Estes.

 

[Rob Campbell]

I just looked up an old NCR catalog. I believe you had the Phantom 4000HD. This was the version that had a 38mm mount and through the wall fins. That would have been the better Phantom.

 

[jd2cylman]

I have both the 4000HD in 38mm and the Estes/NCR 4000 also. I never got the 4000 starter set. I wouldn’t mind finding one of their controllers, but the new AT one would probably be a better option.

 

[Initiator001]

Yes!

I have been waiting for Matt to re-issue this kit.

I flew my NCRBE Phantom 4000 many times but I had to retire it after a hard landing which cracked a fin.

I look forward to getting a NEW Phantom 4000 and adding it to my stable of flying models.

 

[Initiator001]

I have both the 4000HD in 38mm and the Estes/NCR 4000 also. I never got the 4000 starter set. I wouldn’t mind finding one of their controllers, but the new AT one would probably be a better option.

The NCRBE controller was a modified version of the original Pro Series controller. It had more "Bells and Whistles" than most mass-marketed launch controllers.

 

[J Blatz]

My first MPR/HPR kit. Flew it at LDRS 10. Still have it out in the garage.

 

[tfish]

My son built a P4000 when he was 13 year old.


He used it at Balls last year for his TRA l1 cert flight.


He was cert'ed by Chris Pearson the designer of the P4000


Chris then autographed his rocket.


Very cool of Chris!

Tony

 

[John Kemker]

I just looked up an old NCR catalog. I believe you had the Phantom 4000HD. This was the version that had a 38mm mount and through the wall fins. That would have been the better Phantom.

Yeah, that's the ticket!

 

[Buzzard]

My original NCR Phantom 4000 purchased from NCR in the mid-80s. I believe this is LDRS 5 in Medina, OH. I have the NCR by Estes kit and just received the new Phantom 4000 release from North Coast Rocketry.

Chas

 

[ThePlmbr]

Here's a picture of my 25 year old Phantom 4000. It has been repaired and repainted twice.

 

[Scott_650]

Now that the Phantom is back hopefully we’ll see the Quasar NG next!

 

[ECayemberg]

Loving this thread! Have an old 4000HD and the new release from Matt. Looking forward to putting it together soon!

 

[jadebox]

My Phantom 4000 suffered a crunch during a hard landing. I cut two inches off the top and flew it for a few more years as the Phantom 3998.

I bought it using a gift certificate we got for helping out at an Estes Make it and Take It event at Walt Disney World. That was a fun, but hot, day as I recall. The highlight for me was watching rockets launched from the stage by the lake in the Disney Marketplace.

I think I still have the Phantom 4000 and it is probably still flyable. I just have to finish unpacking from our move seven years ago to find it.

 

[Dave S.]

I do like the way its sort of a big Estes Alpha

 

[n3tjm]

Crap. Another rocket got released that is on the must get list... Problem is... I got the pay the mechanic for the break job and replacing the control arms before my camping trip...

Then NCR Phantom 4000 was my first 4" rocket (not counting the Saturn V). Still waiting on a 4" SA-14 Archer. Loved that rocket.

 

[Rob Campbell]

Crap. Another rocket got released that is on the must get list... Problem is... I got the pay the mechanic for the break job and replacing the control arms before my camping trip...

Then NCR Phantom 4000 was my first 4" rocket (not counting the Saturn V). Still waiting on a 4" SA-14 Archer. Loved that rocket.

According to the "news" tab on the North Coast website, the 4 inch SA-14 is on the way.

 

[John Kemker]

If anyone buys a new Phantom 4K, please post a dimensioned drawing of the fin pattern. It just so happens, the Phantom 4K HD I had uses the Ace 4" PNC that I just bought from @Art Upton

 

[Hobie1dog]

Looks so much like my Estes Maxi-Alpha

 

[jadebox]

I do like the way its sort of a big Estes Alpha

Oh yeah, I almost forgot. A few years ago, I repainted my Phantom 4000 to look like an Alpha III. I was making a video featuring an Alpha III and wanted some on-board video. Using the Phantom 4000 as a stand-in allowed me to tape a larger camera to it than I could have used on a regular Alpha III.