Couldn't Occam's Razor apply here? Iran is not known for their "1st world aviation abilities" Given what's been reported, it's more likely it was just "CFIT" (Controlled Flight Into Terrain). Pretty much a "Kobe" scenario.
I dunno.
We need a fact check here.
Oh, Bryant! Played basketsball, right? I've been here trying to figure out what a helicopter has to do with Kobe:
That is why I say 50/50, a lot of people would like him removed, versus terrible weather and a helicopter that doesn’t have the best maintenance. (I don’t think age is the correct unit here, a well maintained sowing machine will work for 100 years.
A sowing machine is not a helicopter. And genuine replacement parts for US-built aircraft have been in short supply in Iran since circa 1979.
I wouldn't even say "50/50". I'd say more like "90/10" that it was pilot error. The only reason I'd give other nefarious causes 10% is because it does benefit the world and a good conspiracy theory only has to be "10% true".
Not quite 60 year old helicopter, the Bell 212 didnt even have its first flight until 1968 and they were produced from then up until 1998, my guess is that his helicopter was a very late manufacture one and not one of the early models, but it was at minimum 24 years old. Not terribly old but definitely requiring careful maintenance and upkeep. I am with Bravo52 on the percentages most of the world would like to see him removed, however his successor might be someone even worse, and will be appointed pretty much by Ali Khamenei.
Have sowing machines been around for 100 years? Or did you mean sewing machine?
Stating that both sides have done bad things is not the same as "argu[ing] on the... premise of moral equivalence." Of course such a premise is erroneous. Still, one side doesn't gain license to be bad simply because the other side is worse.
Sowing machines, ie. Seed planters are quite a bit older.Have sowing machines been around for 100 years? Or did you mean sewing machine?
And the sort that you make clothes with was invented in the mid 1800s.
Ha! I never considered the possibility of sewing machines. I kind of dispute the premise here. Needles, cords, and belts (see below) are more or less commodities that wouldn't be that hard to acquire on the black market, much like Cubans can get spark plugs to keep their old American cars running. It's when you get into machined parts that I think you're more likely to run into trouble. Sewing machines' precision parts last more or less forever with decent maintenance (and can often be cleaned back to working order), whereas I am guessing that a helicopter has precision parts that need replacement every so often.Have sowing machines been around for 100 years? Or did you mean sewing machine?
But seriously, that hundred year old sewing machine has had more than cleaning and oiling over those hundred years. It's had new needles, new belts, at least one new power cord if it's electric, etc. Hence @boatgeek's comment.
Interesting, thanks. I did not know that (and, incidentally, did not claim to).
That, I knew. (And they were only one factor among several that started the feminist movement. And the labor movement.)
My point was only that helicopters, like sewing machines, need parts now and then. Of course sewing machine parts are easier to get; difficulty in acquiring them was not the point. (I bet the precision parts for the helicopters are available on the black market, up to a point, like the spark plugs in Cuba. But I guess this tangent has gone on long enough.)
I would be really surprised if any are still alive.
Maybe the point is that Mr Biden and his reelection campaign loves this idea. And have you noticed there is no full buy-in from the Israeli cabinet?
No one dies when a sewing machine breaks.
