terryg
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A Spirit Aerosystems whistleblower died of what the article called “a sudden, fast-spreading infection”, which forced doctors to consider amputating his extremities. His health before was generally good and suffering this completely blindsided family and medical professionals.Article is behind a paywall.
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Well now you’ve done it, the lead investigator is doomed Now.I’m very interested in the findings of that.
Depends. See how much Spirit stock they hold.How are the Clintons involved in this?
I’m not quite as concerned. This is a completely separate division of the company.Tomorrow Boeing's Starliner should launch with two Astronauts onboard. I sure hope there are no further "Boeing" problems for this flight. And considering how Boeing's execs are handling the safety of their airliners I worry.
Given the embarrassments that have already occurred in the Starliner program over the past few years, that's not much of a defense.I’m not quite as concerned. This is a completely separate division of the company.
+1 i really hope it works though..,Given the embarrassments that have already occurred in the Starliner program over the past few years, that's not much of a defense.
Sad but true, though I as well hope for the best.Given the embarrassments that have already occurred in the Starliner program over the past few years, that's not much of a defense.
Generally, law enforcement agencies keep quiet on that subject so as not to tip off suspects that they might be under investigation. When they have enough evidence to indict someone, then you're more likely to hear something. Both whistleblowers died under mysterious circumstances, I'm sure we're not the only ones thinking that something smells wrong.With so many whistle blowers dyeing I wonder why we haven't heard that the FBI or another law enforcement organization is investigating. Because it sure smells fishy to me.
The under-reported, but truly terrifying thing about that is, recent news says that the latest few debt auctions are struggling to find buyers. When no one buys new treasury debt, the debt clock stops like it hit a brick wall and suddenly, whether we like it or not, the United States will have to learn how to live on a balanced budget.Watch the debt clock sometime if you really want to make your head spin.
Withholding judgement until we find out whether it was lazy employees who didn't want to deal with non-conformance work, or management telling those employees, "Nah, don't worry about it, it'll be fine."Hoo boy. Boeing just got caught falsifying inspection records on the 787 line in Charleston. Employees said that they had done inspections that they hadn't.
https://www.reuters.com/business/ae...stigation-into-boeing-wsj-reports-2024-05-06/
At-will may not mean much if they can demonstrate misconduct or unfair practices by management. There are employment attorneys who specialize in this kind of thing and can uncover the real reason for termination, not just the stated one.Hoo boy. Boeing just got caught falsifying inspection records on the 787 line in Charleston. Employees said that they had done inspections that they hadn't.
https://www.reuters.com/business/ae...stigation-into-boeing-wsj-reports-2024-05-06/
[edit] Boeing promises "swift and serious action" against multiple employees. Given that they also said they are zero tolerance of breaking safety rules, SC is an at-will state, and that the vast majority of the factory is non-union, I'm not sure why they didn't say they were firing people. [/edit]
A significant chunk of the debt, about a fifth overall, is intragovernmental. It’s part of the day-to-day processes of making sure agencies can run, and doesn’t necessarily indicate anything ominous. It just has to be tallied because that’s how the accounting works.Sad but true, though I as well hope for the best.
$1 billion over budget... do you know 1,000 people who could use $1,000,000? But the national debt dwarfs that. Watch the debt clock sometime if you really want to make your head spin.
At will means you do not have to state a reason. The mistake employers make in at-will states is to give a reason.At-will may not mean much if they can demonstrate misconduct or unfair practices by management. There are employment attorneys who specialize in this kind of thing and can uncover the real reason for termination, not just the stated one.
On further reflection, immediate firing would probably halt any internal investigation as to how high up the chain the failures go. I have trouble believing that tolerance of not actually doing inspections stops at the line inspectors. I would be shocked if (at minimum) the shift supervisors didn't know. It would be nice to can those folks as well. Of course, that won't get to the people who say that the most important thing is to make the deliveries and don't let anything get in the way of that. And it seems unlikely that the culture will change until those folks see some consequences.At will means you do not have to state a reason. The mistake employers make in at-will states is to give a reason.
This is a common problem in today's workforce. It isn't just Boeing that has this problem. It's consistent across most businesses.Employees said that they had done inspections that they hadn't.
One of the premises of moving 787 production to SC was to get away from the WA unions. If management was paying attention and cared about the lapses, they should have been able to fire anyone they wanted.Basically, incapable of an "honest" day's work. The second is Boeing management failing to provide appropriate oversight, accountability and basic management. They should have been aware of the shoddy work and fired the workers...oh wait, they probably couldn't.
Employee testimony on recent goings-on in the workplace, as well evidence found in discovery, can overpower even no reason being given and point to an actual reason that may or may not be legal. Courts consider everything they deem credible, not just whatever the company says.At will means you do not have to state a reason. The mistake employers make in at-will states is to give a reason.
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