Hey does anyone have a scan of the data plate for the Aerotech HV-Arcas... or better still, a source for a full scale version of it?
Here`s my 4" scratch built ARCAS ,finished last week.
Graphics by Stickershock.
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Here you go!Hey does anyone have a scan of the data plate for the Aerotech HV-Arcas... or better still, a source for a full scale version of it?
FABULOUS!How about this one?
How about this one?
It is reasonably well known on this forum... if altitude were not the issue, and sourcing 4.6" diameter cardboard tube (to maintain scale) were not so difficult, my AT HV Arcas would be an upper stage. Here in New England, flying such a vehicle is not a risk I would take anyway... It'd just go too high, and space is tight with gobs of trees. If I still lived in Utah, that'd be another matter. I really like the AT version, and I fly it whenever I get the chance.Bit of a fun fact, there is no real rocket with the name HV Arcas. The rocket that Aerotech and other manufacturers pass off with that name is actually just the upper stage to the Boosted Arcas and it doesn't have the tail cone the normal Arcas has because of the booster.
By the way, what was the actual source for that image? Did it come with a kit or is it off of an actual HV Arcas ;-)
That looks as if it's full sized....
The "Closed-Breech" launcher ( foam spacers used to get a good seal for launch.The Arcas is one of the Atlantic Research sounding rockets that got a lot of use and had a very unique launcher system. I didn't bother scaling the launcher with this micro T4 scale model but do plan on giving one a try soon.
I am "digging" . . .I'm wondering if this hv arcas on display (presumably at ARC in Alexandria) is still there... Anyone know?
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Thanks Dave... You're definitely a better "digger" than I! I've just completed my second Aerotech HV Arcas but I'm starting on a full scale HV from composite warehouse. One thing that doesn't seem to exist is a good photo of a launched round. (Something akin to some of the photos of the IRIS). Box photo and instuctions of the AT Arcas seems to have the stripes aligned with the fins... The photos show the striping between the fins... Wonder where AT got their info from...Some "color data" data about that photo.
https://cdn.imagearchive.com/rocketryforum/data/attach/202/202863-Sparrow-Arcas-Narrative.pdf
I think that "ARC" ( Atlantic Research Corporation ) is gone . . . Googlemaps showed an abandoned building in 2009 . . . From 2017 on, just a vacant lot ( apparently bull-dozed ).
The address for ARC is / was 5945 Wellington Rd Gainesville, VA, 20155-1633
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.7884031,-77.5857252,3a,73.9y,59.78h,83.7t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sWuSQXjuFrXmhDqk9eKuM7Q!2e0!5s20090601T000000!7i3328!8i1664?entry=ttu
Thanks Dave... You're definitely a better "digger" than I! I've just completed my second Aerotech HV Arcas but I'm starting on a full scale HV from composite warehouse. One thing that doesn't seem to exist is a good photo of a launched round. (Something akin to some of the photos of the IRIS). Box photo and instuctions of the AT Arcas seems to have the stripes aligned with the fins... The photos show the striping between the fins... Wonder where AT got their info from...
Too bad ARC no longer exists ( I saw something that suggests it was subsumed into some other company which probably in turn ran it into the ground!). I would've loved to see that display round close up
DANG! You have EVERYTHING! Where do you keep it all? Will we see you on an episode of "Hoarders" soon? . Huge thanks!
I have almost 450 GB ( almost 200,000 files ) of scale data in my "archive" . . . I started collecting data, in 1974, at age 13.DANG! You have EVERYTHING! Where do you keep it all? Will we see you on an episode of "Hoarders" soon? . Huge thanks!
I'm wondering if this hv arcas on display (presumably at ARC in Alexandria) is still there... Anyone know?
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Start the BBQ grill . . . Be there at 5pm to start measuring !I have it.
Ditto!!!Start the BBQ grill . . . Be there at 5pm to start measuring !
BTW - Are you SERIOUS ?
Hey @CTimm! We're still wondering if you actually DO have that display round
From left to right Arcas, Arcas, Arcas, HV Arcas, Frangible Arcas, HV Arcas, Sidewinder, Booster, Arcas, Sparrow (fins removed but they simply slide in.) Also have the Archer (no fins though), Arcturus, and more Arcas and Super Arcas. Best for last, the red booster.
I am very impressed with all the interest in the HV Arcas and the AeroTech data plate for the kit.
However, I have to make a confession.
The data plate with the AeroTech HV Arcas kit is (partially) FAKE!
Back in 1987 when we needed photo models of the upcoming AeroTech scale kits for the catalog we contracted out for Marc McReynolds to build these models. Marc is one of the premier scale model rocket builders in the country. We sent him a box of tubes and nosecones, told him what we wanted and he went to work.
When Marc was creating the data plate for the HV Arcas model he ran into an issue. On the real Arcas, several of the boxes were left empty/had no printing. Before a specific Arcas round was flown someone in the launch team used a grease pencil to write information in these empty spaces which were then recorded in some way (Written in a notebook/photographed?).
Marc didn't know what to put in these boxes but he had an idea. He called AeroTech and asked Gary Rosenfield and myself for some information which he used to filled in the blanks on the Arcas data plate.
So, when a modeler buys an AeroTech HV Arcas kit, the data plate features Marc's NAR number and the year he joined, Gary Rosenfield's NAR number and my NAR number and the year I joined.
We consider it an 'inside joke'.
I get a chuckle out of 'other' rocket kit companies who release a HV Arcas kit and have the SAME information on their kit's data plate. Not too much research done there. Maybe I should sue for royalties.
So there you have the background on the AeroTech HV Arcas data plate.
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