CCotner
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I'm starting this based on discussions with Casey Barker and Kurt Von Delius, and also brief interactions with Ken Biba. I want to know about people's flights with extreme tailcones and boat-tails (more than 10 degrees of total included angle and more than a 25% reduction in base area or somewhere around those numbers) at supersonic (>M1.2 for >1sec) speeds. I want quantitative comparisons between simulator data and recorded flight data.
From looking at both data comparisons and underlying physics assumptions, it seems apparent to me that RASAero is basically the only hobby-accessible rocket simulator that has any hope of accurately predicting supersonic flight information. OpenRocket seems to do slightly better than Rocksim. I do not consider Rocksim Pro to be hobby-accessible for it's $1000 pricetag, although I have heard mixed things about it's accuracy.
The allegation is that while RASAero accurately predicts supersonic CD and CP-shift in most cases, it exaggerates the contributions of extreme tailcones (as defined above), leading to inflated altitude performance (such as designes I have made for a J510 flying case rocket reaching 32,000', or more topically, the predictions of my and cjl's N5800CS MD rockets reaching 120,000' plus compared to the ~60,000' expectations of Bandman444 and others).
So, as the internet was once misquoted,
SHUT UP AND GIVE ME YOUR DATA!
From looking at both data comparisons and underlying physics assumptions, it seems apparent to me that RASAero is basically the only hobby-accessible rocket simulator that has any hope of accurately predicting supersonic flight information. OpenRocket seems to do slightly better than Rocksim. I do not consider Rocksim Pro to be hobby-accessible for it's $1000 pricetag, although I have heard mixed things about it's accuracy.
The allegation is that while RASAero accurately predicts supersonic CD and CP-shift in most cases, it exaggerates the contributions of extreme tailcones (as defined above), leading to inflated altitude performance (such as designes I have made for a J510 flying case rocket reaching 32,000', or more topically, the predictions of my and cjl's N5800CS MD rockets reaching 120,000' plus compared to the ~60,000' expectations of Bandman444 and others).
So, as the internet was once misquoted,
SHUT UP AND GIVE ME YOUR DATA!