Yet another E12 Cato

[n3tjm]

Estes sent me a new Majestic and a pack of E12-4's last Sept because my Majestic suffered a weak ejection charge. Well yesterday was the first flight with the new Majestic, using one of the new E's. None of the igniters that came with the motors worked so I used a previous generation igniter enhanced with testers silver paint.

 

[lakeroadster]

Estes.... Let's all hope they get these 24mm motors under control while they still have some customers left.

 

[pugachu]

Ouch!

Nice picture, though.

Most of my Estes motor failures have all been a result of age, or poor storage.

Guess I don't fly enough!

 

[Art Upton]

WOW, also I wonder why none of the ignitors worked ?

 

[Cape Byron]

WOW, also I wonder why none of the ignitors worked ?

They were trying, in vain, to save his rocket.

Igniters. Sometimes they just know.

 

[Capt. Eric]

Estes sent me a new Majestic and a pack of E12-4's last Sept because my Majestic suffered a weak ejection charge. Well yesterday was the first flight with the new Majestic, using one of the new E's. None of the igniters that came with the motors worked so I used a previous generation igniter enhanced with testers silver paint.

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Please don't be offended, but I think you have to admit to yourself that you are the problem here. Clearly the Majestic just isn't the rocket for you, and the Gods are trying to tell you that. I'd stop now before they get impatient and someone gets hurt!

(sorry for the sarcasm. Sometimes I just crack myself up, and usually I'm the only one.)

But that sux. I have a nice flying machine that took many hours to build. Flies great. But I'm afraid to fly it these days because of the E12 issues. The only bright side is at least the Majestic is an easy build.

 

[n3tjm]

They were trying, in vain, to save his rocket.

Igniters. Sometimes they just know.

They were the new style igniter... I'm not impressed.

In Brighter news... Secret Santa Christmas In July sign up starts in two weeks .

 

[cwbullet]

I am seeing more and more CATOs from these.

 

[Art Upton]

I am seeing more and more CATOs from these.

Yes, I am worried about my OOP Executioner BT-80 rocket even on D12 motors. I do have E35W-8s for it, but would like lower altitude options.

 

[SolarYellow]

Yes, I am worried about my OOP Executioner BT-80 rocket even on D12 motors. I do have E35W-8s for it, but would like lower altitude options.

D22 and E36 (if you can get it lit without chuffing).

 

[pugachu]

Hmm, quite a few failures reported for this motor...

I think I'll pick up a few E18 reloads for my kid's 24mm rockets...

 

[n3tjm]

Yes, I am worried about my OOP Executioner BT-80 rocket even on D12 motors. I do have E35W-8s for it, but would like lower altitude options.

The OOP Executioner flies real nice on Aerotech D15 and D24 reloads

 

[Capt. Eric]

Yes, I am worried about my OOP Executioner BT-80 rocket even on D12 motors. I do have E35W-8s for it, but would like lower altitude options.

I love the Executioner too (have 2 of them). Maybe go with the E35 and add a couple of big links to it for extra weight to lower the altitude. Just SIM it out to make sure you get speed off the rod.

 

[n3tjm]

D22 and E36 (if you can get it lit without chuffing).

Don't use the stock igniters. They are whimpy. I'd either enhance them with some Magnelite Pyrogen, or make your own wires and dip them in Magnelie Pyrogen. Thats what I do.

 

[n3tjm]

On Saturday I sent Estes the following E-mail: (minus the pics and video links because I already posted those)

Douglas Gardei
Apr 27, 2024, 9:5 PM MDT
Hello,

Today I went to fly the new Majestic that I received from Estes last September using the motors that were sent with it.

First problem I had. The igniters were junk. None of them worked. I ended up using an older generation igniter that got the motor started, but once the rocket got a couple feet off the pad, it Cato’ed.

Damage assessment to the Majestic is the motor mount is cooked. The 24mm adapter has wedged itself into the retainer and possibly melted and fused to the motor tube. I have not been able to remove the adapter or the blown casing. The Airframe tubing is noticeably weaker above the motor mount area.

Looks like I will need another Majestic or equivalent
Another pack of E12-4s or Equivalent (Could I get E16-4’s?)
A new 24mm Adapter

Thanks


Took a couple days, which is fine, and I got this in my e-mail.

Scott Hunsicker (Estes Rockets) Apr 30, 2024, 8:54 AM MDT Douglas, Order 179301 was created to send you replacement items, substituted the E16-4 for the E12-4. Let us know if you have any questions.

I'm actually impressed they substituted the motors for me. I felt the E16's were prob a safer choice.

 

[kjhambrick]

Nice Customer Service by Estes, @n3tjm !

I had never seen the Pro Series Majestic before you made me look

Nice Fins !

No paint necessary !!

29mm Motor Mount !!!

Maybe I need to get me one of them kits

-- kjh

 

[pugachu]

Nice Customer Service by Estes, @n3tjm !

I had never seen the Pro Series Majestic before you made me look

Nice Fins !

No paint necessary !!

29mm Motor Mount !!!

Maybe I need to get me one of them kits

-- kjh

put a few E12's through it, and you may end up with several kits!

 

[kavy8]

I’m glad to see they offered replacements!

 

[lakeroadster]

Estes Pro Series II™ Majestic™​

 

[Voyhager3]

Scott has been the representative I’ve worked with in the past for my E12 catos, only good experiences interacting with them!

 

[ShadowSpire48]

Scott has been the representative I’ve worked with in the past for my E12 catos, only good experiences interacting with them!

He ghosted me after Estes failed 3 times to send me the correct body tube for my PS Goblin which had a bad bubbled tube in the box. E12's have been a problem since they replaced the E9's.

 

[cwbullet]

You guys have me thinking to fly all my remaining E9s and E12s with a saucer or shuttlecock

 

[pugachu]

You guys have me thinking to fly all my remaining E9s and E12s with a saucer or shuttlecock

nah, cluster them! that way if you get 1/4 failures, every launch would be statistically more challenging!

 

[cwbullet]

nah, cluster them! that way if you get 1/4 failures, every launch would be statistically more challenging!

And much more exciting.